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Friday, November 2, 2012

What Was the Unemployment Rate When Obama Took Office Compared to Now?

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What was the unemployment rate when Bush left office and Obama was inaugurated? 
7.8%


What was the unemployment rate after Obama's first full month in office (February 2009)?  8.3%


What was the unemployment rate at peak?  10.0%

What is today's (October 2012's) unemployment rate?   7.9%

How many people were looking for work when Obama was inaugurated; how many were working?  And how many people are looking for work and how many are employed now?
  • Read below the graph.



  • The following chart shows the unemployment rate in three month intervals:  


  • Why are there two lines, one for "Seas Adjusted" and one for "Unadjusted"?

    The Bureau of Labor Statistics uses seasonal adjustments to adjust for the volatility in the labor market from one month to the next.  The relatively even red line above shows the unemployment rate based on seasonally adjusted numbers.  The jagged green line shows the unemployment rate based on "real", "raw" numbers; the unadjusted rate.  Notice that the green line goes up in January (after holiday layoffs) and July (school-related layoffs), and it goes down in October and April, which are strong months for workers.  (Employees are all back to school in October, and employers are staffing up for the holidays.  Schools are also full in April and employers are starting to staff up for summer, construction, vacation venues, etc.)  The green line, however, reflects "reality":  Your friends, neighbors, and family members actually working or not working.  


    • What Caused the Rise in Unemployment When Obama Took Office?  Obama caused the unemployment rate to rise?  (Continue reading; the answer  is below.)
    •  What Was the Unemployment Rate When Bush Took Office?  How high did it rise?  (The answer is also below.)  
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    The Unemployment Rate When Obama Took Office:
    • For the record, when Obama took office in January 2009, the "official" unemployment rate in seasonally adjusted numbers was 7.8%, with 12,049,000 people reporting themselves as unemployed and actively looking.  142,187,000 people were working in January 2009.*  (These numbers are adjusted slightly since original publication as the Bureau of Labor Statistics updates its numbers.  The original January 2009 unemployment rate reported by the BLS in February 2009 was 7.6%)  
    • In "raw" numbers not adjusted for seasonal variance, the unemployment rate was 8.5% with 13,009,000 people reporting themselves as unemployed and actively looking for work.  140,436,000 people were working in numbers not adjusted for seasonal variance.
    The Unemployment Rate at its Peak: 
    • At the "trough" (bottom in terms of jobs) of the recession in late 2009/early 2010, the "official" unemployment rate in seasonally adjusted numbers climbed to 10.0% in October 2009 with 15,421,000 people (out of a labor force of 153,822,000) reporting themselves as unemployed.   138,401,000 were working in October 2009; however, the lowest number of people working was reported in December 2009, when 137,792,000 people (in seasonally adjusted numbers) were working.    
    • In "raw" numbers not adjusted for seasonal variance, the unemployment rate reached a peak of 10.6% in January 2010 with 16,147,000 (out of a labor force of 152,957,000) reporting themselves as unemployed and actively looking for work.  Only 136,809,000 were working (in "raw" unadjusted numbers) in January 2010.

    The Unemployment Rate NOW:
    • Now, in October 2012, the "official" unemployment rate in seasonally adjusted numbers is at 7.9%, with 12,258,000 (out of a labor force of 155,641,000, the largest civilian labor force EVER ) unemployed and actively looking for work.  143,384,000 people are working now.  (Last month 142,974,000 were working.  This is a increase of 410,000 people working in seasonally adjusted numbers.)  The unemployment rate  increased by one tenth (.1%) of a percent as unemployment increased by  170,000 and as 578,000 people entered the labor force in October.  (We have 1,584,000 more people in the labor force than we did in October 2011 and we have 3,087,000 more people employed than we did in October 2011.)  (The unemployment rate has now decreased 1.0% since October 2011 and has decreased 1.1% since September 2011.) 
    • In more volatile unadjusted "raw" numbers the unemployment rate is now 7.5%, an decrease of .1% since September, and a decline of 1.4% since October 2011, a year ago.  In "raw" real numbers, 11,741,000 (out of a labor force of 155,779,000) are unemployed and actively looking for work.  This is a decrease of 1,000 actively unemployed people in raw numbers since September.  144,039,000 are working now in "raw" numbers unadjusted for seasonal variation.  (This is an increase of 706,000 people working since last month.)

    To Summarize the Unemployment Rate Now Compared to When Obama Took Office:
    • Using seasonally adjusted numbers, the unemployment rate was 7.8% (and rising quickly) when Obama took office, and it is 7.9% (and falling) today.   12,049,000 were officially unemployed back then, and 12,258,000 are unemployed today.  
    • Using nonseasonally adjusted numbers, the unemployment rate was already 8.5% when Obama took office, and it is 7.5% today.   13,009,000 were officially unemployed in "raw" numbers back then, and 11,741,000 are officially unemployed in "raw" numbers now.  Remember that "unadjusted numbers" or "numbers not adjusted for seasonal variation" are the numbers of real people, your friends, family, and neighbors, who are employed or unemployed. 

    What Was the Alternate U-6 (U6) Unemployment Rate When Obama Took Office?
    (I have just started to keep track of the U-6 number here in September 2012 with August data.  The U-6 number is based on the total of unemployed and underemployed as a percent of the total of the civilian labor force and the underemployed.  The underemployed include two groups of people:  1.  The number of people working part-time who want full-time work but can't find that work.  2.  The number of people who have not looked for work in the past month but are now ready to look for work.  These people did not look for work in the past month for one of these reasons:  Discouragement, sickness, childcare issues, transportation, education or training, "other".  All of these people had looked for work during the past year.)    
    • The alternate unemployment rate when Obama took office in January 2009 was 14.1% based on the most recent revisions available.  By February 2009, it had grown to 15.1%.  (The data reported in February reflects data collected as of the week of February 12th, 2009.) 
    • The alternate unemployment rate (U-6) peaked at 17.4% in October 2009. 
    • The alternate unemployment rate has descended to 14.6% now in October 2012.  It had been 14.7% for the last two months.
    What Was the Unemployment Rate When Bush Took Office in January 2001?  (Added by popular request)
    • In seasonally adjusted numbers, the unemployment rate was 4.2% when Bush took office in January 2001.  The unemployment rate continued at 4.2% during Bush's first full month in office, Febaruary 2009.  6,023,000 people were officially unemployed at that time.    
    • In nonadjusted "raw" numbers, it was 4.7% when Bush took office in January 2001.  6,647,000 people were unemployed in "raw" numbers at that time.  
    • The adjusted unemployment rate went up to 6.3% by June 2003, and then it began to decrease.  That's an absolute increase of 2.1% in 29 months.  That's a relative increase of 50% in 29 months before it turned down.  
    • It went down to 4.4% in late 2006 and again in May 2007, and then began to increase, reaching 7.8%, an increase of 3.3% by the time Bush left office. That's a relative increase of 75% in 20 months.      
    • The unemployment rate went from 7.8% when Obama took office and 8.3% during Obama's first full month in office to the peak of 10.0% discussed above before it turned down.  That's an increase of 2.2%.   That's a relative increase of 28% in 9 months before the unemployment rate turned down.
    • The following chart compares and contrasts the relative increase in the unemployment rate under Bush and Obama during their first 44 months (from inauguration until September of their respective fourth years in office).  The rate under Obama jumped up further in his first year in office, but came down more quickly.  Under both presidents, the unemployment rate comes down and goes up in any 3-6 month period.  (This chart will be updated with October data in the coming days.)   










    What Caused the Rise in the Unemployment Rate When Obama Took Office?  Why has the Unemployment Rate Increased Since Obama Took Office?

    These are questions I have received in my email, and I thought I would answer these questions here.

    Well...as just mentioned, the unemployment rate was on its way up with a bullet starting in early 2008. The unemployment rate was 4.4% in mid 2007 before the full impact of the housing crash hit the labor market. Employment in construction hit a max in mid 2006 and had already started down by mid 2007, but most other employment sectors were not impacted. But by late 2007, the entire economy was starting to feel the impact of the housing crash. In a year and a half, from June 2007 until January 2009, the unemployment rate went from 4.4% to the 7.8% discussed above. 

    That's why we say that Obama inherited a rapidly-increasing unemployment rate. Why did it continue to rise after Obama took office? It takes a while for any government policy to take effect. Both TARP, the bank bailout signed by Bush in late 2008, and ARRA, the stimulus signed by Obama in February 2009, needed time to take effect, and that simply did not happen immediately. How long does it take to turn around the proverbial aircraft carrier vs. a speed boat? However, even though it took 9 months for the unemployment rate to max out (see the graph above) and start decreasing, the rate of increase slowed down by June 2009.

    We can also think of the analogy of a fire: If a building is burning down, the fire department is called. It takes time for the fire department to put out the fire; it takes time for the fire to cool; it takes times for the debris to be hauled away. Only then can rebuilding start. And you certainly don't blame the fire department or the people who clean up the debris for the fire, do you? 

    The question, "What Caused the Rise in the Unemployment Rate After Obama Took Office?" really makes no sense... The unemployment rate was rising rapidly before Obama took office, and it took a few months for policies to kick in and stem the job bloodbath. A better question would be "What Caused the Rise in the Unemployment Rate Starting in 2007?" The answer to that would be the housing crisis and the resulting crisis in banks and lending institutions. But that is outside the scope of this article.

    What sources are you using for the unemployment data?

    All of my employment number reports and graphs are based on monthly reports and data published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Monthly numbers reports are based on the monthly Employment Situation Report and Database tables published at the www.BLS.gov website.
    The Employment Situation report includes month over month and year over year jobs numbers. 

    The database tables that I use for the numbers here are: 
    1. Employment Level LNS12000000 (Seasonally adjusted) & LNU12000000 (Unadjusted).
    2. Unemployment Level LNS13000000 (Seasonally adjusted) & LNU13000000 (Unadjusted).
    3. Unemployment Rate LNS14000000 (Seasonally adjusted) & LNU14000000 (Unadjusted). 

    You can find these tables by searching for these table numbers at the BLS website. My analysis is taken from the monthly BLS data copied to an Excel spreadsheet every month. I calculate detailed percentage increases/decreases, 3 month numbers, 2011 to date numbers, and I compare jobs numbers to those at the time of Obama's inauguration and at the "trough" of the recession.

    Has Obama Redefined Unemployment?

    No. 

    No administration can define or redefine unemployment, nor what counts as a job or a worker in the BLS reports.

    Changes are made to the questionnaires that are used to determine "employment" from time to time, but these questionnaires have not been changed for years.

    My article about the subject is HERE, with links to BLS information about this.




    Are independent contractors counted?  What about people who no longer receive unemployment benefits or who have exhausted all of their unemployment benefits?

    Someone left a comment:
    The one thing none of these reports show nor do any of the Government reports, and that is the number of independent contractors that are unemployed or the number of unemployed that the benefits have run out and they gave up on trying. These added in would make these numbers on the reports look miserable.
    Both groups of people, the independent contractors, and the unemployed without benefits who are still actively looking for work ARE included in these numbers.  ALL numbers of people who are unemployed, working part-time, or who want work have come down significantly over the past year to 18 months. 

    8 comments:

    1. Great article, very informative

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      1. Thank you for stopping by and thank you for your comment.

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      2. Considering that we are now finding out that the Administration has been using personnel in the Census Office to adjust the Unemployment numbers to make them more favorable, it may be time to wake up. The IG is looking into the matter and may found the same type of mess as the IRS Targeting of Conservative Groups. Will the Census Officials also take the 5th, or tell us what is really going on?

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      3. Gene, this is all complete B.S., and I will write more about this latest "scandal" when I have time. Nothing to it. Which I'm sure you will find very, very sad. It came from an article in the NY Post.. You do know better than to believe anything in that rag, don't you?

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    2. Can you please show where to look in your rather vast amount of statistics exactly where the independent contractors and unemployed whose benefits have run out are accounted for?

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      1. Hi Anonymous..

        I'm not sure exactly what you are asking. As I wrote above, right towards the end of this post:

        "Both groups of people, the independent contractors, and the unemployed without benefits who are still actively looking for work ARE included in these numbers."

        Perhaps that wasn't clear. I mean that the numbers of people employed, people unemployed and the unemployment rate DO include independent contractors and they DO include people who have run out of benefits AS LONG AS those people are still looking for work.

        For the purposes of calculating the unemployment rate, the definition is: 1. The person is out of work (even if previously self-employed) and 2. The person has been actively looking for work during the past month.

        Again, you are considered unemployed whether or not you are receiving unemployment benefits AS LONG AS you are still actively looking for work.

        So.. how many people have exhausted all benefits and are still looking for work? Unfortunately, no agency keeps track of what happens to people after they run out of benefits.. Do they apply for social security (if they are of age)? Do they find a job? Open a small business? Just drop out of the labor force? Stay home and watch their kids and not bother looking for work?

        We simply don't know.

        This is what we do know:

        There are approximately 2,150,000 people who are on extended state or federal benefits, meaning they have exhausted their regular state benefits (which run approximately 26 weeks). There are 6,125,000 people who are now unemployed (meaning actively looking for work) who were laid off.... They didn't quit, they didn't enter or re-enter the labor force. If you quit or are just entering or re-entering the labor force, you probably DO NOT qualify for unemployment benefits. Of those 6,125,000, 44% or about 2,695,000, have been unemployed at least 27 weeks. So we can assume that at least 500,000 people who are still actively looking for work do not have unemployment benefits.

        Many, many people, probably several million, have exhausted their benefits over the past two years, but that doesn't mean that all of those people are actively looking for work. If you aren't actively looking for work, you aren't counted among the unemployed, even if you did exhaust your benefits.

        Independent contractors are counted among the self-employed. According to the BLS monthly report, there are now (as of October, the last month available now), 540,000 unemployed self-employed people. That would include independent contractors and other people who have small businesses who currently do not have any business and who are looking for work. To repeat, those people ARE counted among the officially unemployed.

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    3. According to FORBES The Obama Recovery is the Worst in US History. In all Recovery's since the Great Depression the average recovery time was 25 months according to the Federal Reserve. Under President Obama 70 months have passed with No Recovery. We are still down 2.8 million jobs from April 2008. Counting the people who have dropped out of the labor force, we have lost 10 Million jobs. This is a far cry from the 4.4% Unemployment Rate under the 'failed' Presidency of Bush.

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      1. This was the worst recession since the Great Depression, and FDR did not have to deal with a Congress that was intent on destroying the economic recovery.. at least not until 1936 when he also got swept up in the austerity business and the unemployment rate jumped precipitously.. and stayed high until WWII.

        Why do you want to count people who have dropped out of the labor force, most of them retiring, as people who have "lost jobs"? Are you one of these Republicans who believe that old people should work until they drop? And the unemployment rate was 7.8% at the end of the Bush presidency, which clearly WAS a failed presidency. Sorry that you are blind to that reality.

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